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- From: sloppy@mack.rt66.com (John Millington)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: What is the purpose and role of the Amiga?
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- Date: 20 Apr 1996 00:06:26 -0600
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- H Doan (hdoan@vworks.com) wrote:
- : Speaking of graphics... I work with "hardcore" graphics all the time... Will
- : that overprice 4000T from Escom handle my 60 megabyte tiff files... I don't
- : think so..
-
- Well, a 5 year old A3000 with 18M of RAM and VMM sure doesn't have any problem
- with them. If a 4000T has a problem, then yes, I'de say a $2700 A4000T is NOT
- money well spent. (Of course, I'de say that $2700 for a A4000T isn't money
- well spent anyway...)
-
- : Its funny to see how my old Amigas redraw the screen.. All my Amiga freinds
- : say ooooh, ahhh, "my machine can display workbench @ 800x600 in 16 colors"
- ^
- Um.. I presume you meant to include the word "million" there, right?
-
- : Whooopee.. A $60 PCI video card for my Pentium allows me to see 800x600 at 16
- : million colors at 90 hz refresh..
-
- Ok, the PeeCee scores a point there. It costs a lot more to do it on an Amiga.
-
- : Heck, my PC displays 1600x1600 at 16
- : million colors.. Lets see an Amiga do this??
-
- 1600x1600x24 eh? Ok, fair enough, no current Amiga graphics cards can do
- that. But the Amiga's market probably isn't people who spend three
- thousand dollars on a monitor. Geez, here I was thinking of getting a nice
- 21" monitor for my A3000, and now I find out that if I "cheap out" and get
- a $2200 Nanao, it won't be good enough to display the resolution that your
- PeeCee can put out...
-
- : Care to see a nice screen shot of
- : my PC running a quicktime video, formatting a floppy, running Photoshop,
- : netscape and downloading a FTP all at the same time???? Let see this done an
- : Amiga.. I don't think so.
-
- No problem. Different name brands, but same types of apps (Photogenics
- instead of Photoshop, AWeb instead of Netscape, etc) and a 25 MHz A3000+CV64
- does it just fine, except that the animation will be choppy.
-
- : Face it... Amigas were cool.. Been there. Done that.. Now its time to move on
- : my friends.
-
- Why should we believe Microsoft _this_ time? You say that NT can perform. But
- I have seen 100 MHz Pentiums running Windoze 95 with "only" 16M of RAM and if
- I try to push them as hard as an Amiga, they start swapping like a bitch. PeeCee
- advocates have been lying about PeeCee's real performance year after year after
- year. Now in 1996 some guy on the 'Net claims that NT is the answer, and that
- PeeCees can finally perform as well as Amigas. When do we find out how you
- managed to stack the deck? Is this some dual-P7 system costing over $10k that
- you're talking about? Do you have 128M of RAM? You've already dropped hints
- that you've spent as much on your _monitor_ as an A4000T.
-
- The Amigas are definately behind in terms of raw CPU power. Even with the
- fastest 060s available, they can be beaten by other systems (PowerMacs and
- PeeCees) for CPU-bound jobs. But when it comes to actually _doing_ things,
- like having Aweb read a page from httpproxy while AmFTP downloads a file
- and Grapevine displays what some idiot just said and Dopus copies a hundred
- files to an IDEA-encrypted disk partition and a shitty MOD plays off the
- CD while any number of blocked tasks sit there waiting to be told to do
- something all on a 1024x768x24bit screen.. (and throw in the classic
- format-a-floppy example too), a 25 MHz '030 Amiga outperforms a 100 MHz
- Pentium running Windoze 95 or even Warp. But if I install NT on that
- PeeCee, it might surprise me, huh? Monkeys flying out of my butt would
- surprise me too.
-
- Yog-Sothoth Neblod Zin,
- John Millington
-